RIP Chris Cornell

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    One of the great voices of rock. A terrible loss. Fuck!


    SOUNDGARDEN Singer CHRIS CORNELL Dead At 52

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    SOUNDGARDEN singer Chris Cornell died Wednesday night, his representative has confirmed.

    The representative, Brian Bumbery, called Cornell's passing "sudden and unexpected." He added in a statement: "His wife Vicky and family were shocked to learn of his sudden and unexpected passing, and they will be working closely with the medical examiner to determine the cause. They would like to thank his fans for their continuous love and loyalty and ask that their privacy be respected at this time."

    The 52-year-old musician was in Detroit where he performed with SOUNDGARDEN at the Fox Theatre.

    A representative for the Detroit Police told Variety that the death of is being investigated as a suicide.

    "At 12 a.m. [local time], we received a 911 call from the MGM Grand Casino Hotel,"Detroit Policedirector of media relationsMichael WoodytoldVariety. "It appears as though a family friend was checking up onCornellat his wife's request. He went to hotel and discovered him unresponsive on the bathroom floor. Police made the location with EMS, and he was pronounced dead at the scene.

    "At present our investigation is leaning toward the possibility of suicide, but we must wait for a medical report to determine the cause of death. At this time we cannot release too much information about what we observed in Cornell's hotel room or what led us to this conclusion."

    SOUNDGARDEN has been working on its seventh studio album since 2015, but the band took breaks while Cornell toured his "Higher Truth" solo set and drummer Matt Cameron hit the road with PEARL JAM.

    SOUNDGARDEN reunited in 2010 after a 13-year hiatus, first touring and then writing and recording "King Animal", its first new studio album in 16 years.
    The band kicked off a North American tour on May 3 in Atlanta, and was scheduled to wrap up the trek on May 27 at the Rocklahoma festival in Pryor, Oklahoma.
    In 2002, Cornell checked himself in to rehab for two months after years of drug and alcohol addictions, forcing his then-band AUDIOSLAVE to cancel what would have been its first tour and leading to Cornell also separating at the time from former SOUNDGARDEN manager and then-wife Susan Silver. He told The Pulse Of Radio a while back what finally led him to check himself into rehab. "I really had to come to the conclusion, the sort of humbling conclusion that, guess what, I'm no different than anybody else, I've got to sort of ask for help — not something I ever did, ever," he said. "And then part two of that is, like, accept it when it comes and, you know, believe what people tell me. And trusting in what I have been told, and then seeing that work."

    In a 2015 interview, Cornell weighed in on the controversy of rockers, drugs and who's to blame for their sometimes deadly combination. The singer said he didn't believe that the music industry was responsible for the deaths of rockers Scott Weiland of STONE TEMPLE PILOTS and VELVET REVOLVER, Kurt Cobain of NIRVANA and Layne Staley of ALICE IN CHAINS. "If you go into a 12-step meeting in any city, and you count 75 people, and you ask how many people are musicians, you're gonna get two, and everybody else is gonna be from every walk of life that you can imagine," he said. "The same as Scott Weiland's mother crying, there are mothers crying who have lost their sons who are construction workers, mechanics — literally anything you can think of — and it's happening every day. And the only difference between a musician that's famous and that other kid is that we don't talk about them on the radio. That's kind of it… They're not somebody that is a public personality that's already been talked about for other reasons."

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    Never heard of him.
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    Holy shit!
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    Is anyone really surprised?
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    Actually, yeah. Of all the grungeoids, Cornell and SG were probably the one most sneered at by the critics. They rocked too hard (and straightforwardly), he sang like a full-on 70s-style rock god, and was overall too healthy-looking for the HIV+ taste-making crowd to warm up to. They looked down their nose at him precisely because he was too fucking talented to appeal to them. And therefore I figured he'd live into his 80s just to spite 'em.

    Now they're saying suicide, which I don't buy at all - but, if true, would be even more shocking than plain ol' death by misadventure.









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    I loved Soundgarden and Temple of the Dog, wasn't much of a fan of Audioslave or Tom Morello's shitty guitar playing. Cornell had one of the best voices in contemporary rock history and could sing almost any genre he set his mind too. As il Ragno said, it was reminiscent of the 70s rock icons everyone loves till this day. To me, he always sounded a bit like Robert Plant. He was one of the few talented grunge musicians along with Layne Staley and Jerry Cantrell.

    If the suicide verdict is true, I send my deepest condolences to the family. The music world has lost a great talent.
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    I'm sure Eddie Vedder is somewhere laughing to himself with his ukelele.
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    shit-

    Cornell's death by hanging officially ruled a suicide
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    Poor audioslav ended his life in Detroit, suicided just in time to still have to pay death taxes. Life sucks, especially the end.
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    Soundgarden was pretty much the only PNW band from that era that I liked. Great voice, cool songs, rocked hard.

    I hope he didn't do himself in. Not trying to make a joke, but I can see how even being in Detroit could be depressing on top of whatever else he was dealing with.
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    That's bad. Really bad.

    All of the real great grunge singers are gone now. I don't include Eddie Vedder in that category only for the reason that Pearl Jam wasn't nearly as dark or melancholic as Nirvana, STP, Alice in Chains, and Soundgarden.


    Okay, regardless of what you think about the music, with hindsight we can now clearly see that the "grunge" mainstreamed era was the last display of white pop culture musical hegemony. The first half of the nineties was the last time when it was "cool" to participate in a white sub-culture during a period where whites were still predominant and ubiquitous in the pop culture sphere. I know radical Spermfronters would dispute that by delving into the genealogical bloodlines of the cast of Saved By the Bell and say "but they were all muds" - still, they passed as white and were portrayed as white. Even the token black character tried to act "white."

    Almost directly after Kurt Cobain blew his brains out, "hip hop" icons were moved to the center stage, moving "alternative" bands to the back door, "other" category. MTV blasted negroes dancing around in baggy Tommy Hilfiger jeans constantly. White kids in Northeastern cities started to talk non-stop about "Tupac" and "Wu-Tang Clan," while letting their own pants sag below their ass everywhere they went. This "surge" was complemented by the thorough promotion of black athletic dominance in every sport except professional hockey, with Michael Jordan and Mike Tyson endorsed apparel appearing everywhere. The quarterback position, which became the last redoubt of "white guys" in the NFL, went under constant verbal assault by Jewish and wigger jock sniffer color commentators, who cried for the need for blacks to dominate this position as well - even if they on average weren't particularly good at it.

    Post-1994 also saw the 'explosive' increase in the disgusting black male/white female relationships. And why not? The implicit message of the televitz set was that the black male now competitively "ascended" over the white male. Stereotypes started to be built about the supposed lack of white prowess in certain athletic attributes, like "speed," with accompanying nonsense about supposed "twitch muscle reflex" differential between the races. Movies occasionally took their cheap shots as well, in overt fashion even, with titles like White Men Can't Jump and The Great White Hype. Every sports league integration movie ends with the black team romping the all-white team. When stoned junior high kids were introduced to the evil "Nazis" who thought whites were superior, they learn that Jesse Owens "won" the Berlin Olympics, supposedly embarrassing the Fuhrer and refuting Nazi propaganda (with the fact that the evil Nazis won the most gold medals always cleverly admitted). Opinions can differ over whether the media had an agenda to over-hype the black male-white female phenomenon, but attempts like White and Black fizzled. For whatever reason, the media chose not to focus too much energy on the successful black athlete/gold-digging white whore phenomenon, though this existed in the underground.

    The white guy in the street didn't even know what hit him, if he even noticed at all. But it all started, with all converging factors coalescing in force, when Kurt Cobain blew his brains out. I can't say why, and who knows whether a switch was flicked or anything like that, but that's how the ship went down in Ameri'kwa.

    But at least we had grunge, if only for a moment, and with Cornell's suicide, we mourn the loss of the last link to the last era of white pop cultural supremacy, at least on MTV. The Jewish talking heads who analyze the 90's on those real shitty documentaries aired on VH-1 would probably claim that the 1990-94 "whitey period" was really just a lingering part of the 80's, when the 90's "didn't know itself" and "hadn't defined itself yet." Then they would say that the real 90's began with Puff Daddy dancing around in some Hilfiger jeans, or maybe when rival rap factions of ghetto gangster trash used their newly acquired fame to start shooting one another. Although I would normally feel inclined to dispute such a proposition due to my own biases, they're basically right.

    Whitey killed himself in '94, and probably in more ways than one, whitey killed himself again today. RIP.
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    That's because OJ Simpson, god bless his heart, inadvertently threw a temporary monkey wrench (pun intended) into that agenda when he went Night Of The Long Knives on his ex-mudshark and her pet kike in 1994.
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    The remaining "white" pop-culture is only allowed to be of low-T whining emasculated type. Any white performers showing any aggression and virility are nowhere to be seen, since the kikes have written whitey off.

    It's the kike end-game/peak jew.
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    I saw him back in the 2000's at a Rock Fest in the Netherlands. RIP.
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    Addendum:

    Check out this 30 for 30: Why I Hate Christian Laettner for the best example of Jewish/mystery meat jock sniffer color commentary that tacitly addresses all of the issues discussed in my post without explicitly just stating that they hated Duke basketball teams because they're typically quite good and "too white," while the hatred for Laettner stems from the fact that he was a great white college basketball player. If you can't watch the entire thing, at least zoom to 18:50, for the opinion of the apparently 'esteemed' Mr. Rosenberg concerning how he couldn't fathom, back when he was a 14 year old champion toilet bowl swimmin' Jewish nerd, ever talking to his homeys about "liking Duke." Dancing around the issue, they try to talk about a supposed perceived 'class' issue just like all other cultural Marxist default thinkers; people do not see 'class background' on an athletic playing field, and guys like Laettner and Hurley weren't upper class anyway. Obviously, the overwhelming majority of rich, privileged white kids never even bother picking up a basketball. Still, listen to these Jewish nerds talking about the 90's, how "everything 'black' became 'cool'" (because my Jewy grandparents, uncles, and cousins in LA and Hollywood made it "cool"). White athletes that dominated despite that suddenly become "villains" that are publicly acceptable to "hate." The most significant cogs to this wheel remain unspoken.


    There was also an undeniable, unspoken racial component to the Tebow slander. It wasn't specifically because he was a "white quarterback" who was "good," because obviously there are plenty of those. But he wasn't a good white traditional pocket passer - he was a white quarterback that played with the 'unorthodox' style of the average black quarterback who couldn't pass with finesse, but actually did it better. He could run down after down and keep running fast -surely faster than even Steve Young who was the typical 'quick for a white guy' QB - and he could also occasionally break tackles like a bulky tight-end. Beyond that, he could win games. So what was the problem? His passes were "ugly!" This was just unacceptable for a white quarterback. But every black quarterback who played the game had an aesthetically hideous pass in their first few years (sometimes for their entire career), with maybe Warren Moon providing the exception that proves the rule. And many of them can't even win. Tebow had a skill-set that was similar in a template style fashion to say, Michael Vick, but arguably superior in almost every way. Despite that, Tebow was ran off of the Denver Broncos after he undeniably succeeded; Michael Vick received contract after contract, despite not possessing a particularly great W-L record, and was even brought back after his notorious conviction. The religious issue made its impact as well, but I personally see that more as the straw that broke the camel's back. The truth is that the commentators and elites behind the actual sports talk/entertainment industry of the NFL did not even want the archetype of Tebow playing in the NFL. The physically athletic version of the quarterback position must remain a demesne of the black man, every bit as much as the half-back or cornerback position.


    Back to the Duke issue, white men who are both competitive and confident are villains because, once again, the archetype is impermissible, verboten. If white men start to once again become competitive in their interactions with the other races - as opposed to just giving them the win for the sake of higher morality - then we'll surely have the return of Hitler!
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    Been listening to him all day...
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    Read his friggin' lyrics. Hard core lefty all the way. Fuck him and good riddance.
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