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    What's your take on this?
    IMO, it's encouraging drug users to move to the OR.
    Maybe it's time to cut ties and move to Peru (?) now?

    Oregon bill will reduce punishments for possession of heroin, cocaine other drugs

    http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/07/oregon_bill_will_reduce_punish.html

    First-time offenders caught with small amounts of heroin, cocaine, methamphetamines and other illegal drugs will face less jail time and smaller fines under a new bill approved by the Oregon legislature that aims to curb mass incarceration.
    The Oregon legislature passed a bill late last week that reclassifies possession of several drugs from a felony to a misdemeanor, reducing the punishments and expanding access to drug treatment for people without prior felonies or convictions for drug possession. Oregon lawmakers hope to encourage drug users to seek help rather than filling up the state's prisons as an epidemic of abuse spreads.
    "We are tying to move policy toward treatment rather than prison beds," said state Sen. Jackie Winters, R, co-chair of the public safety committee and a supporter of the bill. "We can't continue on the path of building more prisons when often the underlying root cause of the crime is substance use."
    The bill also attempts to reduce racial profiling via data collection and analysis to help police departments understand when their policies or procedures result in disparities.
    If signed into law, Oregon would be among just a few states that have reduced punishments for possession of small amounts of some illicit drugs, what some call the "decriminalization" of drug possession. Proponents say the bill marks a significant step toward addressing racial disparities in incarceration that developed as a result of the "war on drugs" approach to crime. The bill reflects a wider trend in which many states struggling to manage the opioid addiction crisis are working to treat drug abuse more as a public health concern than a criminal matter.
    In Oregon, several law enforcement agencies worked with lawmakers to craft portions of the bill.
    "Too often, individuals with addiction issues find their way to the doorstep of the criminal justice system when they are arrested for possession of a controlled substance," Kevin Campbell, executive director of the Oregon Association Chiefs of Police, wrote in a letter of support for the bill. "Unfortunately, felony convictions in these cases also include unintended and collateral consequences including barriers to housing and employment and a disparate impact on minority communities."
    Despite garnering support from law enforcement agencies and advocacy groups, the majority of Republicans in both the House and Senate voted against the bill, as did some Democrats.
    "I fully support the collection of data to monitor racial profiling, but I am opposed to reducing drug classification," state Rep. Alan Olson, R, wrote in a recent newsletter to his constituents. His attitude toward the bill was shared among many in the legislature, including some Democrats.
    State Sen. Betsy Johnson, D, who voted against the bill, argues that downgrading drug possession is misguided and represents a "hug-a-thug policy" in which legislatures are soft of crime in an effort to reform the prison system.
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    "The proponents of these bills mistakenly believe that drug sentences damage people lives, but it's the drugs that ruin people's lives," she said. "I would like to end the odious practice of racial profiling, but I will not be associated with a bill that decriminalizes hard drugs."
    Studies have shown that Oregon conviction rates disproportionately affect minorities. A 2015 study by the Oregon Criminal Justice Commission found that African-Americans in Oregon were convicted of felony drug possession at more than double the rate of white offenders; Native-Americans were convicted of drug possession at five times the rate of whites.
    Oregon has the seventh-highest incarceration rate in state prisons for African-American males, according to a 2016 report by the Sentencing Project, a prison-reform advocacy group. Black people make up 2 percent of Oregon's population but represent almost 10 percent of the people incarcerated in state prisons as of 2014, the study found.
    With the bill's passage, Aaron Knott, legislative director for Oregon's Department of Justice, hopes to reverse these trends while also increasing access to drug treatment for all Oregonians. Many Oregon counties already have local drug diversion programs that allow some low-level drug offenders to undergo treatment instead of jail time, but the programs are generally in wealthier counties with more resources, leaving people in low-income communities without options, Knott said.
    "So if you crossed the county line with a small amount of heroin, in one county you could be looking at a felony. In another county you could be looking at a misdemeanor with pretty good access to treatment," Knott said. "We had a feeling this was unjust because the outcome is largely due to the county's resources."
    The bill also requires police officers to record demographic information - including the age, race and sex - of any person stopped during routine pedestrian and traffic stops. The Oregon Criminal Justice Commission (CJC) will analyze the demographic data police departments collect and will notify them of any disparities so that the departments can make adjustments to their practices.
    In 2015, Oregon became the 31st state to pass a law addressing racial profiling, but it did not provide guidance for dealing with the issue. "The bill was incomplete," Knott said. "It was saying to police departments, 'Just don't profile' and 'Here is a definition of what not to do, and we expect you not to do it.' "
    In February, a year-long investigation by Investigate West, entitled Unequal Justice, revealed that Oregon's black and Hispanic residents routinely experienced unfair treatment within the criminal justice system. Reporters analyzed more than a decade of court records and found that minority residents were far more likely to be charged for dozens of crimes, from minor infractions such as littering and jaywalking to more serious offenses, such as robbery.
    The bill is now pending review by Gov. Governor Kate Brown, D, who said she is looking forward to signing it into law.
    "While we still have much work ahead, HB 2355 represents an important step towards creating a more equitable justice system to better serve all Oregonians," Brown said in an emailed statement. "Addressing disparities that too often fall along racial and socioeconomic lines should not be political issues. Here in Oregon, we're demonstrating that we can making meaningful progress to improve the lives of Oregonians by working together around our shared values."
    State Rep. Ann Lininger, D, says the bill presents a common-sense policy to get people who are struggling with addiction into treatment and a practical solution to reduce the high cost of incarceration.
    "Sending people to jail or prison is much more expensive and not an effective way to get at the root cause of some crimes," she said. "I think it's why so many people were able to rally around reducing the felony to a misdemeanor. We can now focus on using scarce resources to help people move forward."
    --The Washington Post



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    Oregon is a hellhole in just about every way I can think of. If I could move I would do it. I've been trying a long time to get out, still hope this is my last year here.
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    In any other place when it's 80 degrees it would be pretty nice but there is this humidity here 95% of the time that makes what would be pleasant warmth into a sweaty hellhole. It's not the heat per se it's the fucking humidity or whatever that's makes this place so fucked.

    Besides the people that is. Don't even get me started on that.
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    TBB: The West Coast
    Chapter 1: Johnson's hatred of WA moves to OK.
    Chapter 2: Billy's disdain of OR, ready to move anywhere, preferably Peru. :)

    (We need someone from CA to finish the book.)
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    Why is Oregon so bad? Is it bad besides Portland and Eugene shitlibs?

    There was a retard on Liberty Forum who hated Oregon and called it whitemanistan.
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    Can you elaborate on this a little bit? Most of my father's side of the family ended/washed up in the Pacific Northwest at one point so I was a little jaded on the area, but aside from the rain (which isn't a total deal-killer for me) I always thought Portland and Eugene were about the only places besides Colorado that had anywhere near the standard of life I was looking for. My grandmother actually lived in Corvallis which was a fairly typical brewpub-addled college town which was not too bad. I can see the shitlib politics being annoying but when you compare it to the likes of Los Angeles, Miami-Dade, or any of the other sort of large decaying urban metropolises it seems like it's still in the top 10% of the USA (although the significance of "top 10%" is quickly decreasing.) Or am I missing something? The lack of sales tax means things like getting $300 speeding tickets for going 5 MPH over the limit is what I've heard.

    Also, do you really think Peru is a good locale for anything at all? Familiarity breeds contempt for sure but Peru doesn't sound like a very choice destination for me. I'm reading a highly politically incorrect book right now from > 100 years ago, Race or Mongrel by Alfred E. Schultz, where he goes on a particularly hilarious tirade against the "worthless mongrels" of Peru (I'll post it here in the next couple of days for your amusement). He said the infusion of Chinese blood makes Peruvian mongrels particularly grosser than their respective South American counterparts.

    Maybe it's just a desire to maintain the illusion that there's still areas in the USA that aren't just total piles of shit, but I dunno. Seems like Oregon is still pretty decent when all is said and done. Liberal politics are annoying, but last I heard people who are planning on living in tiny homes don't tend to correlate to those who perform smash and grabs. In the meantime, I'm fairly happy living here in Colorado although our standard of life is certainly not what it was 20 years ago here either (even as Denver is now a "hip city").
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    You might like it here.

    I'm a born and raised Californian. I hate Oregon. Mostly it's the people, their attitudes make me wanna punch 'em the fucking face. They're pretty fucking full of themselves, especially in Portland. Which to me is a 3rd rate city. Home of the homeless. City lets them take over areas and camp there.

    Eugene is an nice looking town but it's hippie central. Corvallis is OK. But anything north of there is fucked. By that I mean the Portland metro area.

    You're right about the traffic tickets, major scam here. Legislature is sucking Insurance company cock and Oregon allows Ins. Co's to check your credit. The roads suck. Designed by idiots, built by "C' list contractors, poorly maintained and just dangerous in the winter. The ruts fill up with water and you hydroplane.

    Peru I like cuz the business I want to do there is completely unregulated. But it is my 2nd or even 3rd choice.

    Chile doesn't have a big Indio population, they're mostly in the south and they're not the short squat retarded fuckers like in Peru. Also I love not having any niggers or mexicans. And another plus is the tribe really is in the background, the Catholic Church is pretty strong and you don't have jew media/TV/ bullshit in your face 24/7.

    Go months without seeing a nigger? Fuck yeah. Never see a mexi. Hell yeah! Have to actually seek them out to ever see a jew. Oh hell yeah. In my opinion Chile is a fucking paradise compared to the USA.

    Trade off's. If I got to do without something or put up with some annoyances but no niggers, mexi's or jews?
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    Just to finish up, Eugene is probably one of the best places to live in Oregon, hippies aside of course. It's a nice looking town, pretty big, plenty of shopping choices, nice nature areas, college niggerball if you're into that. And as you know, shitlib politics. Although they haven't ruined the place like in Portland. It's like everything south of Eugene should have been California. Personally I think any farther north than that is getting into the Portland influnce. It's just a different vibe if that makes any sense.
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    There are plenty of rural areas in Oregon that would be OK for someone so inclined. But not my thing personally.
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